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live channels support even more important now...

Postby ashley » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:46 am

hey, I see now that silicondust have just launched live channel support for the nvidia shield TV;
https://forum.silicondust.com/forum/vie ... 16&t=64178

For dvblink to remain relevant, they need to resurrect their live channels integration and make it work better, otherwise people will simply just ditch their dvblink setups in favor of silicondust devices talking natively to live channels.

dvblink are in a strong position to do something better - due to the facts they have centralised recording database, tuner sharing between multiple devices, the ability to support 3rd party plugins like oscam for subscription tv etc.

Up to now, the mighty @Oberon has said live channels support is not on their radar any more and we should all be using the dvblink android tv apps (which aren't that great - our family get more mileage out of Kodi despite its quirks).

Please resurrect the live channel support and make it a priority.
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Re: live channels support even more important now...

Postby Oberon » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:35 pm

I really do not see much added value at the moment from Live Channels integration. Apart from certain technical issues it has other limitations, which make it less attractive for us to support, like
- dependency on Android TV OS, which not that many devices have
- dependency on the very latest Android TV OS version for reasonable functionality, which even less devices have
- limited program details overview (not possible to read the full program description text, for example)
- not able to stop stream without exiting app and starting another one
- no possibility to add our own specific features, like TV Adviser integration
just to name a few.

Instead, we plan gradually to extent our new TV Mosaic app (http://www.tv-mosaic.com) to be a full DVBLink client.
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Re: live channels support even more important now...

Postby ashley » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:51 pm

Thanks, the TV mosaic app UI looks good, but at the moment it's just for the butler. Are you saying this will be extended for the standard dvblink server backends in future?
For me the viability is entirely dependent on the stability and reliability, but I'd be happy to test.
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Re: live channels support even more important now...

Postby Oberon » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:57 pm

ashley wrote:Thanks, the TV mosaic app UI looks good, but at the moment it's just for the butler. Are you saying this will be extended for the standard dvblink server backends in future?

Yes, the app will grow to become eventually (also) a client for a standard dvblink backend.
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Re: live channels support even more important now...

Postby lupick » Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:42 pm

Great news! at the momnet the DVBlink client for android doesen't work grat on the androind TV (Nvidia shield). So I need to use kodi.
If you need a tester I'm here!
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Re: live channels support even more important now...

Postby ashley » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:45 am

Hi @Oberon, do you have any timescale estimates for the mosaic front end to connect to a dvblink backend, it seems like there are an increasing number of competitors in this space.
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Re: live channels support even more important now...

Postby Oberon » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:44 am

ashley wrote:Hi @Oberon, do you have any timescale estimates for the mosaic front end to connect to a dvblink backend, it seems like there are an increasing number of competitors in this space.

It is expected to take 2-3 months - e.g. ETA is May 2017.
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Re: live channels support even more important now...

Postby ashley » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:43 am

Great, thanks for the insight.

For anyone out there on the fence, please support the DVBLogic team.
Those guys have worked tirelessly over the years to create one of the best PVR backends.
In my honest opinion, DVBLogic have a better understanding of PVR backends than all the big players.
The addition of a real Android TV app helps to complete the package.
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Re: live channels support even more important now...

Postby Oberon » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:54 am

Thank you for your kind words.
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Re: live channels support even more important now...

Postby ashley » Fri Apr 07, 2017 1:59 am

hi @Oberon, I was just wondering if development is on track with this and if there is likely to be a beta soon? (I'd be quite happy to help beta test - dvb/t in NZ)
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Re: live channels support even more important now...

Postby Oberon » Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:23 am

It's going ok. I think we are 3-5 weeks from the public version.
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Re: live channels support even more important now...

Postby fab4272 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 2:51 pm

How is this going mate? Any teasers?
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Re: live channels support even more important now...

Postby fab4272 » Wed May 03, 2017 3:30 am

Hi...any info on a release date yet?
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Re: live channels support even more important now...

Postby ashley » Tue May 09, 2017 1:11 am

hi @the_man and @Oberon,
Is there any news/development on when the TV-Mosaic app will be able to connect to a standard dvblink backend?
http://tv-mosaic.com/en/

Failing that there are a string of really annoying Kodi issues (on latest v18 nightlies) that I have, many of the issues sit in that middle ground between between dvblink pvr front end and Kodi, so it is very difficult to get the appropriate teams to look at them. I was holding off reporting these as I thought the development resources would be better spent on making tv-mosaic able to connect to dvblink pvr backend.

thanks.
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Re: live channels support even more important now...

Postby ashley » Sun May 14, 2017 11:30 pm

hi, @oberon, @the_man, can I assume the lack of response means that this plan has been postponed/shelved or does it mean release is imminent?
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