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Windows Media Center 10 Officially Dead

Postby DVB_bwl » Sun May 03, 2015 1:27 pm

I was expecting this, but still... Time to start planning a post MCE future for TV...

http://www.engadget.com/2015/05/02/wind ... r-is-dead/
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Re: Windows Media Center 10 Officially Dead

Postby tobias666 » Mon May 04, 2015 9:16 am

I read it as well... Is there any decent alternative for Windows Clients with Windows 8.1 or 10?
I really want to keep my Windows PC in my living room...
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Re: Windows Media Center 10 Officially Dead

Postby oliroe » Mon May 04, 2015 12:29 pm

Kodi, working great for me and I was an avid MCE user
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Re: Windows Media Center 10 Officially Dead

Postby RamGuy » Mon May 04, 2015 10:11 pm

Doesn't Kodi relay on a WMC plugin of sorts if you want the actual DVB-S2 and PVR functionality? Wouldn't that mean it won't work with Windows 10 as the whole WMC portion will not be supported on the operating system?

This is darn sad news.. I have just gotten my HTPC running Windows 8.1 and WMC running and after the initial configuration and getting the EPG to work (EPGCollector to XMLTV format picked up by DVBLogic) it has been working great. The software itself is really easy to use (fiancé friendly) and it looks good and it's very functional and capable. Combine it with MediaBrowser Classic / Emby Classic and you have a really good working solution that is playing back all my local stored content using MPC-HC as player with MadVR and SVP filters.


I do not understand why Microsoft is not able to maintain Media Center as a plugin/addon for Windows 10. They haven't really done anything with the software since Windows Vista so how hard can it be to simply provide it as a addon for Windows 10 like they did with Windows 8 / 8.1? Now I'm forced to choose between sticking with Windows 8.1 and this fully working Media Center solution, or upgrade to Windows 10 and being forced to find another solution for my DVB-S2 and PVR in order to get DirectX12 support for HTPC-gaming and all the possibly awesome "universal apps" that might come to Windows 10.
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Re: Windows Media Center 10 Officially Dead

Postby oliroe » Mon May 04, 2015 10:15 pm

Nope. Kodi and DVBLink work completely independently from WMC.

All you have to do is install the DVBLink add-on in Kodi.
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Re: Windows Media Center 10 Officially Dead

Postby Videonisse » Mon May 04, 2015 10:58 pm

There is plenty of features that Kodi lack compared to WMC. But I believe it's a fair chance they have fixed many of them within a year or two.

But today my family would not accept to replace WMC with Kodi and the DVBLink plugin.
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Re: Windows Media Center 10 Officially Dead

Postby SCOOBY_666UK » Thu May 07, 2015 2:49 am

What Microsoft needs to do is release a new 'Universal' Xbox OneGuide App that supports Live TV/DVR via multiple PCI/USB/LAN/(IPTV/C/S/S2) Tuners. It seems like the DVR functionality will make it's way to the Xbox One Later this year.
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Re: Windows Media Center 10 Officially Dead

Postby lemotor » Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:51 pm

For my family I have a perfect running HTPC with Windows 7 WMC and DVBLink v 4.6 products, with full automatic updating EPG, watching TV from 4 different Satellites using motorized dish using MCE remote control. Everything works smooth without any glitches. Now Microsoft offers free Windows 10 upgrades, but without WMC anymore.
Therefore my question to the community is it worth upgrading to Win10 and DVBLink products v.5.1 and higher and move to Kodi, without running into troubles and fiddling hours and hours with setup issues? Does anyone having experiences with it already? Any advice would be appreciated.
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Re: Windows Media Center 10 Officially Dead

Postby Videonisse » Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:53 pm

Short answer is No, at least not if you are using the PVR features in WMC.

I have not (yet) moved from WMC+DVBLink 4.6 because of:

- WMC recordings will not be imported into DVBLink recorder database (I'm currently using mc_recorder). They will therefore not be available in the GUI anymore after upgrade to Kodi. We have 500 recordings in the WMC-format...
- Tuner prioritization isn't supported
- time-shift is still not mature
- playing recordings with higher speed isn't supported
- less settings for recordings
- fast forward isn't as smooth as with WMC

I know both DVBLogic and the Kodi teams are doing great work enhancing the PVR experience so I suppose I will anyway migrate in a not very far future. But I have no expectations it will be "without running into troubles and fiddling hours and hours with setup issues"... :wink:
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Re: Windows Media Center 10 Officially Dead

Postby lemotor » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:22 pm

Many thanks for the advice, that was my fear as well not having a "mature" system with Kodi and DVBLink as WMC has been for me for many years now.
It's a real shame that Microsoft doesn't continue WMC in Win10 anymore without offering an "equal" alternative... :(
But I understand that we HTPC user are just a minor group for them and the new CEO of Microsoft probably has never used a "Big Screen" HTPC. At least I would have prefered to give WMC away as "Open Source".
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Re: Windows Media Center 10 Officially Dead

Postby realbigmike » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:25 am

I guess media center was cancelled partly because of all the free EPG data. Hopefully this will not stop, but there are paid alternatives.

Why wouldnt you stick with windows 7? I just downgraded from win8.
I have 6TB of tv recordings in wtv format with the commercials cut out automatically by comskip.
Media center is the best system, other than a Tivo, I have never seen any pvr that can do the most basic fast forward and rewinding properly- let alone the 30 and 8 second skips and a responsive remote with quality buttons.
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Re: Windows Media Center 10 Officially Dead

Postby yamcenutzer » Mon Jul 27, 2015 4:18 pm

If you can stick to it, keep wmc7
Kodi is a feature bloated network stick.
The PVR functionality/design is still nowhere near the wmc PVR features and the freshly released Kodi 15 (Isengaard) seems to have made things worse than before by trying to add features noone understands/wants on top of missing basic functionality.
They keep adding new advanced PVR features before even getting the EPG straight/stable/useful.

One feature of WMC that noone offers is live merging of eit and offline EPG. That is understandable, since you need full control over the (world-wide) offline epg content/format, and might well be one of the reasons why WMC is considered a financial disaster for MS.
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Re: Windows Media Center 10 Officially Dead

Postby Plantje » Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:50 am

I have switched to Kodi and after a while of getting used to I think I will stay there.

Major downside of WMC: the .wtv file format!
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Re: Windows Media Center 10 Officially Dead

Postby countzerouk » Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:04 am

I already posted this in another thread but here is a better place

http://forums.mydigitallife.info/thread ... ternatives
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Re: Windows Media Center 10 Officially Dead

Postby holzfred » Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:17 am

MCE in Win-10 works...

http://www.windowscentral.com/install-m ... windows-10

I checked it out on 3 Machines...

Greetings

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